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	<description>&#34;Wonders that cannot be fathomed, miracles that cannot be counted.&#34;  —Job 9:10</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Hopeful Creation by Estabrooks</title>
		<link>http://www.wonderofcreation.org/2010/02/17/a-hopeful-creation/comment-page-1/#comment-668</link>
		<dc:creator>Estabrooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean,
I stumbled upon your sight by Googling &quot;birding creation.&quot;  Thanks for your message.  I noted particularly your former membership in the Audubon Society.  I too am former member.  I was also struck by you photo selection; a Flame Colored Tanager.  One year I went looking for this bird in AZ but did not find it.

With all that said, if you don&#039;t mind, would please look at my web site and give me your thought on the concept?  It&#039;s www.creationbirding.com 

Blessings.

Bates Estabrooks
Tennessee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean,<br />
I stumbled upon your sight by Googling &#8220;birding creation.&#8221;  Thanks for your message.  I noted particularly your former membership in the Audubon Society.  I too am former member.  I was also struck by you photo selection; a Flame Colored Tanager.  One year I went looking for this bird in AZ but did not find it.</p>
<p>With all that said, if you don&#8217;t mind, would please look at my web site and give me your thought on the concept?  It&#8217;s <a href="http://www.creationbirding.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.creationbirding.com</a> </p>
<p>Blessings.</p>
<p>Bates Estabrooks<br />
Tennessee</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Is Jesus To Our Kids? by rdrcomp</title>
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		<dc:creator>rdrcomp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is Jesus to my grandkids?  I think it has to be Jesus, which is why I talk about Him to them as often as I can.  Had the rare privilege of baptizing a granddaughter of only 5 last year who was mature in faith way beyond her years.  I&#039;m still waiting on a 14 year old granddaughter who seems to be a genuine believer and who seeks to please God, but.....

Your comment above that Jesus would—if her parents were followers of Him—be personified in them, gives me the shivers.  I can&#039;t claim a full personification of the Lord Jesus in my life, as much as I would like for it to be true.  To my kids/grandkids, I simply say, &quot;yes, I&#039;m a sinner, and have a sin nature that rears its ugly head sometimes, but the important thing is that it really is not about me, its about Him who &quot;loved me and gave Himself for me.&quot; (Gal. 2:20)  

To me, simply pointing to Him is the most important thing I can do for them.

This works real well in the outdoors, away from the Nintendos, cell phones, and the noise of what we call civilization.  There is no better place to talk about the things of God than beside a mountain stream, or a campfire.  Not only are the distractions missing, it seems that God is more real there than anywhere else I know, and I think my grandkids are finding that out too.

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is Jesus to my grandkids?  I think it has to be Jesus, which is why I talk about Him to them as often as I can.  Had the rare privilege of baptizing a granddaughter of only 5 last year who was mature in faith way beyond her years.  I&#8217;m still waiting on a 14 year old granddaughter who seems to be a genuine believer and who seeks to please God, but&#8230;..</p>
<p>Your comment above that Jesus would—if her parents were followers of Him—be personified in them, gives me the shivers.  I can&#8217;t claim a full personification of the Lord Jesus in my life, as much as I would like for it to be true.  To my kids/grandkids, I simply say, &#8220;yes, I&#8217;m a sinner, and have a sin nature that rears its ugly head sometimes, but the important thing is that it really is not about me, its about Him who &#8220;loved me and gave Himself for me.&#8221; (Gal. 2:20)  </p>
<p>To me, simply pointing to Him is the most important thing I can do for them.</p>
<p>This works real well in the outdoors, away from the Nintendos, cell phones, and the noise of what we call civilization.  There is no better place to talk about the things of God than beside a mountain stream, or a campfire.  Not only are the distractions missing, it seems that God is more real there than anywhere else I know, and I think my grandkids are finding that out too.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>Comment on For Our Children&#8217;s Sake by Ted M. Gossard</title>
		<link>http://www.wonderofcreation.org/2010/03/12/for-our-childrens-sake/comment-page-1/#comment-666</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted M. Gossard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely pics, and I am sobered and rebuked as well. Little did I know, and it&#039;s only dawning on me now. 

We Christianize what is wrong rather than find Christ&#039;s redemption to salvage what is good. 

I for one hope to do better and to continue to learn from you, the rest of my days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely pics, and I am sobered and rebuked as well. Little did I know, and it&#8217;s only dawning on me now. </p>
<p>We Christianize what is wrong rather than find Christ&#8217;s redemption to salvage what is good. </p>
<p>I for one hope to do better and to continue to learn from you, the rest of my days.</p>
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		<title>Comment on For Our Children&#8217;s Sake by Dean Ohlman</title>
		<link>http://www.wonderofcreation.org/2010/03/12/for-our-childrens-sake/comment-page-1/#comment-665</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Ohlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks in large part to Wendell Berry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks in large part to Wendell Berry!</p>
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		<title>Comment on For Our Children&#8217;s Sake by rdrcomp</title>
		<link>http://www.wonderofcreation.org/2010/03/12/for-our-childrens-sake/comment-page-1/#comment-664</link>
		<dc:creator>rdrcomp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean, this sobers me as well.  As a grandfather of 9, this resonates deeply within me.  Berry&#039;s remarks are hard to hear.  &quot;We are conducting warfare against our children.&quot;  Most of us evangelical types cry out against abortion, but how many of us complain that our children are poorly taught, poorly disciplined, etc.  My grandkids love fast foods, but what are we doing to their nutritional needs?  And if we don&#039;t get them outdoors, what are we doing to their sense of the greatness of our natural world?

I am forwarding the URL of this one to others.  It may be the best you&#039;ve put here yet.

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean, this sobers me as well.  As a grandfather of 9, this resonates deeply within me.  Berry&#8217;s remarks are hard to hear.  &#8220;We are conducting warfare against our children.&#8221;  Most of us evangelical types cry out against abortion, but how many of us complain that our children are poorly taught, poorly disciplined, etc.  My grandkids love fast foods, but what are we doing to their nutritional needs?  And if we don&#8217;t get them outdoors, what are we doing to their sense of the greatness of our natural world?</p>
<p>I am forwarding the URL of this one to others.  It may be the best you&#8217;ve put here yet.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Ambling&#8221; by Dean Ohlman</title>
		<link>http://www.wonderofcreation.org/2010/03/10/ambling/comment-page-1/#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Ohlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They also had it on last night&#039;s late news and this morning&#039;s news report.  That &lt;em&gt;was &lt;/em&gt;an airplane you heard: the eagle was less than a quarter mile from the GR airport east/west runway.  Would not want to suck that bird up in a jet engine---especially tomorrow when I fly out to the desert Southwest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They also had it on last night&#8217;s late news and this morning&#8217;s news report.  That <em>was </em>an airplane you heard: the eagle was less than a quarter mile from the GR airport east/west runway.  Would not want to suck that bird up in a jet engine&#8212;especially tomorrow when I fly out to the desert Southwest.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Ambling&#8221; by rdrcomp</title>
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		<dc:creator>rdrcomp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I finally saw your video.  Googled WZZM, and had to do a search on eagle, but there it was complete with passing autos, and was that an airplane I heard in the background?

Pretty neat for this tarheel to see your local Grand Rapids, Michigan station&#039;s video you made.

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I finally saw your video.  Googled WZZM, and had to do a search on eagle, but there it was complete with passing autos, and was that an airplane I heard in the background?</p>
<p>Pretty neat for this tarheel to see your local Grand Rapids, Michigan station&#8217;s video you made.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Ambling&#8221; by Dean Ohlman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Ohlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can see video of my eagle encounter on our local ABC station WZZM &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wzzm13.com/video/default.aspx#/Latest%20Video/Bald%20eagle%20spotted%20near%20Grand%20Rapids%20airport/50790483001/50624700001/71235429001&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can see video of my eagle encounter on our local ABC station WZZM <a href="http://www.wzzm13.com/video/default.aspx#/Latest%20Video/Bald%20eagle%20spotted%20near%20Grand%20Rapids%20airport/50790483001/50624700001/71235429001" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Ambling&#8221; by rdrcomp</title>
		<link>http://www.wonderofcreation.org/2010/03/10/ambling/comment-page-1/#comment-660</link>
		<dc:creator>rdrcomp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was going to leave a comment about the &quot;retreat&quot; post, but couldn&#039;t get logged in to that one.  Was just going to say that retreats don&#039;t have to be at a retreat center or Christian camp as wonderful as they are.  Our family has done &quot;retreats&quot; at State and National park campgrounds, as well as forests.  Notice, I didn&#039;t say anything about commercial campgrounds because I really don&#039;t like those as well.

The further away from &quot;urbania&quot; the better I like it.  I dispense with anything electric with the exception of a battery powered flashlight.  We spend the day hiking and sitting by a steam, birdwatching, or riding a bike.  Then crawl into a sleeping bag and listen to the night sounds of crickets and cicadas and an occasional coyote.  

Friends, that is re-creation of the first degree.  Stress gives way to rest and the noise of the steets gives way to peace and quiet and the sounds of a mountain steam. Eye pollution gives way to wildflowers and a star lit night sky.

And these warmer days have me planning on a soon coming camping trip.

Hey, Dean, I love the blood stained beak of the eagle.  I get to see them near our closest river about 8 miles from home.  Wonderful!

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was going to leave a comment about the &#8220;retreat&#8221; post, but couldn&#8217;t get logged in to that one.  Was just going to say that retreats don&#8217;t have to be at a retreat center or Christian camp as wonderful as they are.  Our family has done &#8220;retreats&#8221; at State and National park campgrounds, as well as forests.  Notice, I didn&#8217;t say anything about commercial campgrounds because I really don&#8217;t like those as well.</p>
<p>The further away from &#8220;urbania&#8221; the better I like it.  I dispense with anything electric with the exception of a battery powered flashlight.  We spend the day hiking and sitting by a steam, birdwatching, or riding a bike.  Then crawl into a sleeping bag and listen to the night sounds of crickets and cicadas and an occasional coyote.  </p>
<p>Friends, that is re-creation of the first degree.  Stress gives way to rest and the noise of the steets gives way to peace and quiet and the sounds of a mountain steam. Eye pollution gives way to wildflowers and a star lit night sky.</p>
<p>And these warmer days have me planning on a soon coming camping trip.</p>
<p>Hey, Dean, I love the blood stained beak of the eagle.  I get to see them near our closest river about 8 miles from home.  Wonderful!</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>Comment on Regaining the Biblical Perspective by Dean Ohlman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Ohlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No question that until the early 1900s most folks in the Western world lived closer to the land and were more connected to what was going on in nature.  So many people today live their lives almost totally isolated and insulated from the natural world.  Our fair city of Grand Rapids, of middling size, has a rapidly growing downtown population living and/or working in both new and beautifully restored old buildings that were once high schools, waterworks structures, hotels, and furniture factories.  Thanks to the Clean Water acts, our Grand River is a much more healthy and healthful stream, which is well stocked with salmon and steelhead.  So people could actually walk out of their condos, slip on waders, and fish for some of their meals.  Most don&#039;t.  Using our heated and enclosed skywalk threading through the downtown, parking in heated garages, many downtown residents can now live through all the seasons without ever putting on a coat or using an umbrella!  They can be hermetically sealed hermits---if they can afford it---and get their &quot;outdoor experience&quot; by watching &quot;Planet Earth&quot; and reading &quot;WonderOfCreation.org&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No question that until the early 1900s most folks in the Western world lived closer to the land and were more connected to what was going on in nature.  So many people today live their lives almost totally isolated and insulated from the natural world.  Our fair city of Grand Rapids, of middling size, has a rapidly growing downtown population living and/or working in both new and beautifully restored old buildings that were once high schools, waterworks structures, hotels, and furniture factories.  Thanks to the Clean Water acts, our Grand River is a much more healthy and healthful stream, which is well stocked with salmon and steelhead.  So people could actually walk out of their condos, slip on waders, and fish for some of their meals.  Most don&#8217;t.  Using our heated and enclosed skywalk threading through the downtown, parking in heated garages, many downtown residents can now live through all the seasons without ever putting on a coat or using an umbrella!  They can be hermetically sealed hermits&#8212;if they can afford it&#8212;and get their &#8220;outdoor experience&#8221; by watching &#8220;Planet Earth&#8221; and reading &#8220;WonderOfCreation.org&#8221;!</p>
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